blathering about jesus

[triumph]

Oh, sheet! My Boss is coming! Not Jesus, either. The other one...the one who signs my paychecks! Poop with you all later!

[tori88]

Honey, you didn't get to me... the repetitive crap that is spewing from your mouth that you learned from your closet homosexual preacher & frightened parents got to me. I have to hear my president talk about God. I have to put up with the fact that I am vastly outnumbered in my disdain for the Christian faith. You, someone I don't even know, none of us do that I'm sure of, come on to this forum spewing that crap, it's gonna get me riled up. I am not going to defend myself to such a foot soldier for the war against freedom. You gay bashing, disrespectful little bitch. (I know you have yet to gay bash on this forum, but you do it every night when you say your prayers and ask for god to make sure your president watches out for our values) Earlier, you called me passionless. I hope I have proven to you that passion isn't only for the christ. I don't like about me that I get passionate and ready to fight for a cause like I do, but that is who I am. I also don't like that more than anything in this world, I would like to bash your douchebag face in, but that's who I am. Don't ever question my eduction, faith, or dedication to the Democratic party again. I may not know who you are (pussy) but I will be forever looking for you. Not because I'm agnostic, not because I'm 1/4 Italian & 1/4 Irish (if you didn't know that that means you are genetically predisposed to being feisty and a fighter maybe you need to educate yourself on it) and not because I care what you believe in, but because you insulted me, and I don't deal well with that.

Passionately awaiting when we can meet in person

Tori Ebert

[tori88]

I do want to make a brief apology to those on this site I may have offended other than this douche. I don't believe Christian faith is synonomous with republicans or dorky fucks. I know plenty of people who believe but are still cool. This girl, however,is not one of those. I just want you to know that I love all of my Christian folks on here this holiday season (except douche) and although I believe what I said about her, I didn't mean for it to come of as a generalization of Christians, or believers. None of you would come on her new girl style and start quoting the God Damn bible. I respect that about all of you. Merry XXX-mas.

[tori88]

i accidentaly put "None of you would come on her" and I meant "None of you would come on here", but you can take it as it cums.

[Jarad]

Amen.

[meatwad]

tslave would you feel better if i changed communion to another flavor maybe chocolate? or maybe strawberry, or schnozberries? pick a flavor and it will be done

[diane]

santa clause is not a celebration of jesus's birth. the reindeer, the red guy, the whole deal is the, supposedly, non religious facet of xmas. christ's birth is the christian aspect. people who do hanaka can still do the whole santa schpiel if they want, and that goes for any other religion, too. it isn't like if you do one thing, you can't do anything else. that is just what i understand the district's standpoint to be. i mean, i can make a tree with the kids, but if i whip up a manger, things could hit the fan. as for the jahova's, they don't celebrate anything, bdays, valentine's, nothing. those kids leave when we have parties at school, they just go home early

[diane]

leslie said:

I still don't understand though. If you think about non-religious holidays there is a purpose for celebration. Forth of July, Valentine's Day, Memorial Day, even Thanksgiving. It doesn't make since to me to have a holiday where you don't have a purpose for celebrating. Are you saying that agnostics celebrate Santa Claus??? So, is it the same for Easter? We all know that the bunny doesn't have crap to do with the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, but I guess I was always under the impression that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny were basically extras for the kids. Reverting back to my original question, I just wanted to have an idea of what non-religious people truly celebrate on holidays like Christmas or Easter. Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny do not seem like valid reasons to me to celebrate a holiday considering that they are fictitious characters.

i thought the general idea was good will, but, you know, that's just me. besides, who needs a reason to celebrate, right? as for this other business, i say google it if you are really serious and interested...then report your findings to us in a point by point essay, posted right here, please...

[diane]

well, then, good luck...oh, and keep us posted...

[tslave484]

Oh my gosh Tori, are you hearing yourself?
You’re a walking, talking contradiction.
You accuse me of gay-bashing (when I’ve never done it) right after you presumptuously made an insulting comment about a supposed (closet homosexual preacher), making you the only gay-basher in this forum.
Then you state that “I am not going to defend myself to such a foot soldier for the war against freedom.”
And follow that with “I would like to bash your douchebag face in.. I may not know who you are (pussy) but I will be forever looking for you.”

Well, which is it???

Unfortunately, the only passion you’ve shown me, is your passion for name-calling and making childish threats.
Although it has added greatly to the humor in this whole situation, making it irresistible for me to state that as a political Conservative with Libertarian tendencies, and a huge advocate of the 2nd Amendment, “the right of ordinary people to keep and bear arms"; And therefore, in playing into your little game, I feel I should warn you that I am perfectly able to defend myself against your threats of your ¼ of this and a ¼ of that nationality.
So unless you are made of Kevlar, it probably wouldn’t be the most prudent of ideas for you to threaten or pursue hunting me down. Because you’re not going to be so feisty when you’re staring down the barrel of a Glock.

(I’d like to go on the record in saying that I am neither a violent person nor an advocate of killing. But I do believe in the right to defend myself and my family against people who would break and enter my home with the intention to do harm. And am very well equipped to do so…)

[tori88]

that's interesing. I have a glock as well and a shot-gun to boot. and you are a contradiction as well with your anti violence but then threaten to shoot me. I wouldn't come to your house... I don't even know who you are, an, in general, i do abide by the laws in this country, its just that i don't agree with some of them. I don't fear you or your guns. I don't gay bash. I was saying that your perfect religion has it's closet gays while trying to abolish gay marriages. idiot. I did say I want to bash your face in, but I certainly did not say I would come to your house and mess with your family, especially armed. Hopefully, I will see you out somewhere, unarmed, and show you just how durable I am. I don't know you. I think you are an ass for coming on here talking about jesus and quoting the bible and I dislike you for being the personification of the religious right I have such issues with. I also don't like your insults directed at me and my faith (or lack thereof). And some christian you are, threatening to fucking shoot me. And about celebrating X-mas, Leslie, agnostics like a chance to be with their family and practice good will and generosity as well... X-mas to me is about my family and how much I love them. It's the only day of the year designated (for me) to celebrate each other. My family (most of them) will be celebrating the birth of jesus. I will not. They accept that about me, and I accept that about them. Easter is for kids. X-mas is for everyone. And I thought the idea of this forum was to know who everyone was and to not be able to hide behind an alias. I guess that is not the case.

[adrienne]

How St. Nick, Jesus and Santa Clause ties together...

The true story of Santa Claus begins with Nicholas, who was born during the third century in Patara, a village in what is now Turkey. His wealthy parents, who raised him to be a devout Christian, died in an epidemic while Nicholas was still young. Obeying Jesus' words to "sell what you own and give the money to the poor," Nicholas used his whole inheritance to assist the needy, the sick, and the suffering. He dedicated his life to serving God and was made Bishop of Myra while still a young man. Bishop Nicholas became known throughout the land for his generosity to the those in need, his love for children, and his concern for sailors and ships.

Under the Roman Emperor Diocletian, who ruthlessly persecuted Christians, Bishop Nicholas suffered for his faith, was exiled and imprisoned. The prisons were so full of bishops, priests, and deacons, there was no room for the real criminals—murderers, thieves and robbers. After his release, Nicholas attended the Council of Nicaea in AD 325. He died December 6, AD 343 in Myra and was buried in his cathedral church, where a unique relic, called manna, formed in his grave. This liquid substance was said to have healing powers which fostered the growth of devotion to Nicholas. The anniversary of his death became a day of celebration, St. Nicholas Day.

Several stories tell of Nicholas and the sea. When he was young, Nicholas sought the holy by making a pilgrimage to the Holy Land. There as he walked where Jesus walked, he sought to more deeply experience Jesus' life, passion, and resurrection. Returning by sea, a mighty storm threatened to wreck the ship. Nicholas calmly prayed. The terrified sailors were amazed when the wind and waves suddenly calmed, sparing them all. And so St. Nicholas is the patron of sailors and voyagers.

Other stories tell of Nicholas saving his people from famine, sparing the lives of those innocently accused, and much more. He did many kind and generous deeds in secret, expecting nothing in return. Within a century of his death he was celebrated as a saint. Today he is venerated in the East as wonder, or miracle worker and in the West as patron of a great variety of persons-children, mariners, bankers, pawn-brokers, scholars, orphans, laborers, travelers, merchants, judges, paupers, marriageable maidens, students, children, sailors, victims of judicial mistakes, captives, perfumers, even thieves and murderers! He is known as the friend and protector of all in trouble or need (see list).

Sailors, claiming St. Nicholas as patron, carried stories of his favor and protection far and wide. St. Nicholas chapels were built in many seaports. As his popularity spread during the Middle Ages, he became the patron saint of Apulia (Italy), Sicily, Greece, and Lorraine (France), and many cities in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Russia, Belgium, and the Netherlands (See list). Following his baptism in Constantinople, Vladimir I of Russia brought St. Nicholas' stories and devotion to St. Nicholas to his homeland where Nicholas became the most beloved saint. Nicholas was so widely revered that more than 2,000 churches were named for him, including three hundred in Belgium, thirty-four in Rome, twenty-three in the Netherlands and more than four hundred in England.

Through the centuries St. Nicholas has continued to be venerated by Catholics and Orthodox and honored by Protestants. By his example of generosity to those in need, especially children, St. Nicholas continues to be a model for the compassionate life.


Widely celebrated in Europe, St. Nicholas' feast day, December 6th, kept alive the stories of his goodness and generosity. In Germany and Poland, boys dressed as bishops begged alms for the poor—and sometimes for themselves! In the Netherlands and Belgium, St. Nicholas arrived on a steamship from Spain to ride a white horse on his gift-giving rounds. December 6th is still the main day for gift giving and merrymaking in much of Europe. For example, in the Netherlands St. Nicholas' Day is celebrated with the sharing of candies (thrown in the door), chocolate initial letters, small gifts, and riddles. Dutch children leave carrots and hay in their shoes for the horse, hoping St. Nicholas will exchange them for small gifts. Simple gift-giving in early Advent helps preserve a Christmas Day focus on the Christ Child.

[tslave484]

Good for you! I have great respect for individuals who exercise their Constitutional rights to own firearms. Especially women, because they are so much less likely to be a victim when armed with a concealed weapon.
Although, I find it curious when Democrats own handguns when the party itself is trying so hard to abolish them.

Everyone always throws the “some christian you are, for threatening to shoot me", or owning a gun card.
I don’t understand why that is even an argument. (Especially when I wasn’t the one threatening, you were)
I don’t have to be a victim just because I have religious beliefs.
I would never threaten or be “forever looking” for someone to harm them.

I’ll say again that I would never shoot or hurt someone, unless it was in defense of myself or my family, which is my right. Can anyone blame me for that?

Tori, you keep accusing me of insulting you and how much you dislike me for that, when all I’m doing is responding to your invective insults and cussing. And the only reason I’m doing that is try to point out in a civil manner, the lack of a foundation you have in making these comments.
I’ve once never been on the offensive here. And as for me coming on talking about Jesus, please read the heading of this thread and the statement under Random Thoughts that says “Express whatever you like here”.
As a Democrat, I wouldn’t expect you to be elitist or deny me my right to Free Speech.

[tori88]

just because i'm a democrat doesn't mean i have to believe that guns are bad, but i don't believe they are for everyone. you can talk all you want, you're boring me by now. as long as you don't insult me again (oh yes you have miss holier than thou) then i will be fine with whatever you want to say. it must be hard to be such a saint. you act like you did nothing wrong by insulting my choice of faith when all i did was respond to diane by saying that all the agnostics were laughing, how do you know what we were laughing about? i guess being christian also makes you psychic. you then responded by saying we are a "sad group of people" all cussing that came after that was warranted and i will not back down from that... btw, i don't care what you think of my owning firearms, i don't care what you think of anything at all.

[Dennis 2 Society]

[ThePope]

tslave424, I don't like you and I think your a cunt.

[diane]

theshooter said:

i love it!

[Jarad]

I'm going to print this out and hang it up at work. It's inspirational

[tori88]

that can't be in my case, shooter, cuz all retards go to heaven

[adrienne]

Oh.. and just a bit more learning about Christmas. :-)

Christmas is the Christian holiday that celebrates the birth of Jesus Christ The Son of God. It has however also become a commercialistic as a non-religious holiday in much of the world by people who are not Christians. Because the holiday is so widely celebrated, there are many different ways to celebrate it. People often give each other gifts, and many cultures have special foods like joel, justine, that they eat at this time. In some countries, people also put up a Christmas trees and young children wait for Santa Claus to give them gifts. This is a special holiday for the Christians as they celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ on this day. Many people think that Jesus may have been born around March-July, but the actual date is not certain. It is probable that He was born somewhere around 4 or 5 BC. The traditional date in the Christian calendar for Christmas is always December 25. In the past, christmas was celebrated on the 6th of January, but as time moved on, it was decided that Jesus's birth was on the 25th of a month, and no one was sure what month, so they chose the closest date to January 6th, which ended up being December 25. There are other holidays that take place around christmas. The Jewish people have Hanukkah and the African Americans have Kwanzaa.Some African Americans celebrate Christmas and Kwanzaa. All the beliefs are different but revolve around religion in some way. Many common Christmas traditions evolved from the ancient Pagan there are also diffrent people all over the world that celelbrate this holiday eccept for jehovah witnesses......... holiday, Yule,which celebrated the rebirth of the earth during the winter solstice (usually December 20-21). At Yule, the Holly King, God of winter, is taken over by the Oak King, God of Spring or rebirth, also known as the Divine Child. Common shared traditions between Yule and Christmas include: caroling, decorating the Yule tree, kissing under the mistletoe and honoring Kriss Kringle (Santa Claus), the Germanic God of Yule.